Episode 10 - Teaching with Impact with Tatiana Rodriguez

think, I think we can't wait any longer. Tatiana Rodriguez. Are you ready to join us here on the creative amplifiers? I am so ready. Woo. Number 10, everybody. Episode number 10, and I have a little surprise for you. Congratulations. Aw, thank you. I want, I wanted to be able to say to you guys, you know, number 10 is a big deal, and thank you.

Thank you very much. I'm so happy to be your 10th guest, which means of course, that you've had nine incredible conversations with others already. That I would like to chat a bit about, too, because it does definitely relate to impactful education. Fantastic. And then we will bring that, bring that on into full fruition, um, very, very shortly.

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So first of all, um, let's start with last year's crater camp in terms of what did you enjoy about it? What did you what did you get out of it? What was sort of a real highlight for you? I think front and center is something that I've it's been it's been a consistent reply for me, which is Seeing that the overwhelming majority of people that I got to interact with an experience online Who appeared to be so awesome or even more awesome in person.

was a highlight for me. And. [: 00:02:00

And that it feels that way to me too. And as an adjunct professor, that world can also feel very lonely. So to be able to have that interactivity, that face to face connection, and you know, Mark, we, we just barely had a chance to talk about education, but it's one of those things where you, you, you don't get to experience, you know, Or you get, you don't get to have time with everybody, but then the conversations continue throughout.

So we didn't get a chance to sit and talk about our common education interests back then, like we wanted to, but we get to do that when we schedule time moving forward. So it sparks things in person, events like that, solidify things. And also brings a lot of creativity, innovation, and getting things done.

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But this is not his world. You know, just like if he were to bring me to go build houses or fix industrial machinery, I would be like, that's great. Would you like me to capture this for you? I can do that. So it's just, it's different worlds. And so meeting people who are on that same wavelength professionally, collegially was a highlight.

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But more importantly, to bring all of you, the Ecamm fam together to share what you're doing to help support people within the community to have some fun. And just, we didn't want it to be this was a great week. And I And we'll see you next year. We wanted it to be, this was a great few days and a great week.

Let's do it again soon. And that's kind of, that was my biggest takeaway. And I'm just grateful to Neil and Lisa to, to sort of been able to be supportive, to actually make that a reality, which is sort of where we are and actually leveling it and going from strength to strength. I completely agree.

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And for me, the, the Ecamm Creator Camp conference was the most amazing, wonderful, warm. conference I've ever been to. Everybody was on the same page. Everybody had the same ideas. They were just, as you said, Tatiana, they were just Loving, wonderful, just really nice people to meet in person. And everybody was different heights as well.

You know, we only see these people at this height. So was a bit of an eye opener for me. And, uh, and to Mark and Lisa's point, you know, meeting these two amazing, wonderful people who we've just bonded, decided to get a show together. Thought it was a great idea. And we're still here and we're on our 10th show now.

go back this year and I hope [: 00:06:00

Oh, so, so funny you asked me. I actually just was chatting with Katie today because As of right now, I'm trying to see if those dates, if I could change something. In my teaching schedule to be able to be there right now with right now. It's a it's a probably not but it's not a no. So I'm working. I'm working this out.

Okay, if it's a possibility, but oh, I really hope so. I really hope that it will work out. But if not, I will. You know, let me not even think about if not just one day at a time here, just, we'll just see, but I, I do like what Roy said in the chat right now. Uh, and this one time at creator camp

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But also that everybody has different energy levels and not everyone is as super jazzed about being in large social groups like I am. And I know it's harder for some people. So it's just, it was just really nice to be able to, to spend time with others though, and be mindful and respectful about energy levels is important too.

And I do the same things in my classes, but it was such a fabulous experience. Whether, whether you're a social butterfly or a little more reserved, I think everyone truly enjoyed their time there. So one of the things we really love sort of getting to know is sort of we're all have this common sort of ECAM fam feel, you know, we're all here sort of as part of the same community, but all of our journeys are very different.

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Yes. So, you know, a lot of people, their path, their career path is linear. They went, I'm in preschool and over here, I am going to be an accountant. Some people just know these things, right? I was not one of those people. I, mine was more like this and I ended up over here and it's, it still feels like it's twisting and turning at different, at different parts of life.

So I started out in college wanting to be a photographer and a videographer, and this was before the digital explosion. So this was still in the film days. And. My counselor completely discouraged me from pursuing that told me that I needed to make a more logical decision And and I should say that I allowed my counselor to discourage me Looking back now with the mindset that I have now I wish I had enough, let him discourage me, but I did.

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But everywhere that I went, I ended up being the. documentarian of the thing, whatever club organization job I belong to, I was continuously documenting and then I was teaching and educating on these things. So whether it was a job that I had at a medical facility that had an electronic medical system, I learned the system from the vendor and I taught it to everybody.

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It's just not for me. I, I spoke to many physicians and it just didn't feel right. And my faith and everything, you know, like I prayed about it. I was like, this is, this just doesn't feel right. So I stopped that route, but I did get the master's in public health. And then I worked as a hospital administrator for a very long time.

And we did great work for wonderful people and wonderful families. And I did. I gave it my 100 percent best from day one to, you know, all the many, many, many years later, but creatively, I felt completely unfulfilled and unhappy. And so I started a photography and a video company and I felt much more alive.

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But a few months later, after making that decision, I had a car accident and a cervical spine surgery, which meant that I could no longer do photography and video because it would just be re injuring that same part and it was not going to. Get better, right? So I needed to think about the rest of my life and I was very frazzled.

I didn't know what to do. And of course, thankfully I, I had some opportunities where someone at, at my church at the time asked me if I would help run a creative leadership program for high schoolers. And so I said, yes, because I thought creativity and leadership, those aren't some of my favorite words.

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I just think that these guys are a little too young So I really think that Teaching creativity, leadership, communication in college would be better and she said, well, you know that so and so has an opening and I said, oh my gosh, I know so and so I remember from years ago this relationship at the, you know, in the medical world and the university.

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So, during that time period, I wanted, I wanted to create a platform where I could interview my students and help them share their voice, give them a stage, give them a platform in a virtual world to share what they learned in the classroom and how that mattered outside of the classroom. Here I am doing this on, you know, recording zoom interviews because I was using zoom before COVID.

ty. And I was, he was really [: 00:14:00

And we, we had a private meeting and he was the first one to mention e cam to me. And he did, I checked it out and bought e cam and here I am now little by little. First, it was just for recording videos that were higher quality. And then it got even more and more and more and more. And it's gone through, I've gone through several, several evolutions, but I feel like I've.

Talked on long enough to share a little bit of the journey of how I how I ended up here No I think it's amazing and You is that kind of how you sort of the Tatiana teaches kind of came about from there the the fact that you love giving? People the opportunity and then wanting to give them more opportunities sort of take us into sort of that little bit of evolution as well Yeah, it's like I just I discovered something that was so obvious to everyone in my life But I just hadn't called myself that yet.

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I'll learn this program and teach you guys. And that, and while I may not be able to code the program and create, like I can learn it and teach you. So I just felt like, okay, I have a teacher's heart. I get it now. It makes sense now. And so that's where Tatiana teaches came up as a result is okay. I really, truly have a love and a passion for teaching.

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now,: 2017

I didn't realize or discover this until I was about 40. So, you know, it's just you just never know what life is gonna gonna throw at you And and you kind of really made that sort of really clear early on in terms Have you got so many ideas and so many things you want to do and all this passion comes across so brilliantly and then recently?

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You managed to pull people together and it just creates these wonderful things. And so tell us a bit about that sort of new project. Well, I draw so much inspiration from others and when you, when the three of you shared that you'd started this group, it just kept stirring in my mind how beautiful it was that you had met in person, that you started this thing and it got me thinking too.

So I really have to say thank you to you because the, what you've done has been inspirational to me too. And I, I was thinking, okay, so we all love Ecamm and I and I kept wondering, are there people that I'm sure there are a lot of people in ECAM who are also in the world of education, whether that's in their houses of worship, whether it's in government, whether it's in Classrooms, preschools, universities, workshops, all kinds of things.

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Should we be included in that or should we do our own group and so it seemed like because most places and houses of worship went back to in person now that that that group didn't seem to have as much activity and so he's and he's an educator at heart too. And, and he is a rabbi, right? Which part of being a rabbi is educating.

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And I opened it up and I talked to Katie marketing at e cam about moving forward with this. And she mentioned that there was a Facebook group that had been started some time ago, but somehow had been hacked and wasn't. Wasn't alive and well anymore. And so I thought this is a great time to be able to, to do it.

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Well, it is amazing. And well, thank you so much for sharing that. I mean, we just see ourselves as getting together and having fun and bringing everyone along for a ride. So, but to hear, you know, it's having a real positive impact for the people is, uh, is, is, is really great to hear. And I know Education, we often think about it in terms of I'm the teacher, you're the student, or we're trying to learn something as we're going along.

But I know one of the things that you've been sort of thinking about is sort of some of the educational points that you can have either with Ecamm members sharing it with us and certainly some of the things that have been shared over, over the last sort of 10 episodes or, or so as it's going through.

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So whether you consider yourself an official teacher, a professor, a faith leader, whatever it is, if you want to have impact on others. There are some key things and I noticed every single one of your guests before have have had these things So let's start with the amazing the fantastic the marvelous the magnificent Diana gladly who was your first diana gladney who was your first guest who I think is amazing I love listening to her.

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I thought that was so beautiful in her case, you know, to, to push now it worked for her and just, just like anything in education, it's very specific to the individual person what's going to work for Diana may not have worked for me. In that relationship with her aunt right but it worked for her So that's the beautiful thing to me is that her aunt was able to motivate and inspire her in a way I think diana said this to like she didn't have the healthiest mindset at the time and it sounded to me Like her aunt was able to help her push past that to things.

She never had considered possible for herself So number one right diana as an educator herself, but also Pushing the boundaries what to what she didn't think was possible from the help of other people like her aunt Then we have your second guest who was Roy Richardson Roy. What's up, Roy? I know he's in the comments and Roy is an educator himself.

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I'm gonna look it up when I have a moment, but he also said something really important Which is his why his why his reason for doing what he's doing on his channel Is because he wants to teach others and I would say Knowing what I know about roy, which i've met him in person and experienced live streaming with him, too You It's not just teaching, he actually genuinely wants to give to others something of value in a very generous and open handed way.

ich was Katie Fox. And Katie [: 00:24:00

And to me, this is another really critical tenant of being an impactful educator is being open to learning from others, especially in places where you wouldn't think you're going to be learning, but to stay truly open to the learning, then you had Dan Roth. And what stands out to me about Dan is the vulnerability and the courage that he displays in the virtual world to be able to openly talk about mental health, anxiety and depression.

. And I think that that is a [: 00:25:00

So his hat was my message Focused focused get more focused Tatiana. So I loved I loved his hat. I loved his message, but he also talked about Unplugging and for him it meant in nature in fitness and I That resonates with me too taking really good care of ourselves and though in those same ways for me I have a I have a friend who hates the outdoors, right?

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They still look good, right? The quality is still there. The content is still there, but the importance of allowing others to show their genuine selves, because you are being genuine, I think Mary Lou really exemplifies that. And I think that that's something that an impactful educator has to be as well.

Then Marcus comes on the show and. I've also been a guest on Marcus's show. He's all the way from Switzerland. So it's also so cool how we get to connect all different parts of the world, right? Like even, even us, I think Lisa, are you in California? I am. Yeah. You're in California. I'm on the opposite coast in Pennsylvania.

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You know for for marcus Something that he possesses as an educator to me is being a moderator. This is a different kind of skill that it takes to be able to work collaboratively with others. And I think that he's an excellent example of being able to do that and also to be encouraging. I mean, no one will ever say that, Oh, I love the educators who never encouraged me.

Of course not. It's the people who are encouraging to and I think that that is something that Marcus exemplifies who he is at his core as a human being, Liz Wilcox. Now, I did not get a chance to talk to Liz at Creator Camp, unfortunately, even though I do remember her. I'm like, she's got a 90s vibe. And then after hearing her interview, I can totally see right.

lly does. That's part of her [: 00:28:00

And I need help from her. Like I need the services that she's offering. So, you know, she's, and I think she's also a person who. Exemplifies personality and just being just being who you are and embracing who you are and showing it to the world even in your business Right that it's not like here's me in the business world and then there's me and the rest of my life It seems like she's being herself everywhere and I mean I still have to check out the episode the the season of survivor that she was on because i'm like, oh my gosh She is so cool.

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He was willing to hop on and show me some things when I was just learning the ropes. So he's, he's also really open handed, generous guy. And. What I loved about his interview is something that connects with me too. He talked about making generational change, having generational impact with his family, with his son, with being able to show emotions in a way that he was show that he was taught he's not allowed to do.

And you know, I grew up in a kind of stricter, strict way like that too. But, and I understand like why our parents were the way that they were and things, but I do think that it's, yeah. It's important to make change. So while I don't have children, I know he, he, he wants to impact his family, his bloodline family.

So for me, it's about my [: 00:30:00

ple who have been part of it [: 00:31:00

So yeah, I really, really do appreciate that. And you sort of mentioned there before about your, you know, Kind of looking after yourself and nature and that kind of thing. I know recently you kind of had a big holiday and you were talking about digital detox, which I know is what we all know as content creators is a really big thing.

So how was that for you? And what's that? What's that like for you in terms of the benefits, but but also how hard it can be as well when we're sort of the rest of the time. So sort of 101 percent wanting to keep it going. I have to say It was one of the most amazing experiences of my life. My partner and I rented a travel trailer where maybe it's called the caravan and other parts of the world, but basically a little home on wheels that we pulled with our pickup truck.

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So we, we stopped in Natural Bridge, Virginia, which was such a gorgeous sight to see. Then we traveled. Through so many different states, just making, making different stops along the way and learning about all these differences. I mean, I will say new Orleans was so beautiful. I highly, highly recommend it.

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It's it's important to disconnect. It's important Whatever that means for you, whatever the things are that you love and enjoy but for me it is traveling getting outdoors And and exploring new cities. I love it. Yeah, it's amazing. We've actually had a had a question come in from Martin. Let me just bring this up.

So he says, there's a lot of crossover between sort of use cases. But what do you feel are the big differences goals between live streaming to communities, presenting to businesses and educating younger people? So yeah, I'm curious about that in terms of what what What you sort of, what are your thoughts?

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And I instantly thought of you saying hello from sunny Edinburgh. Just wanted to tell you that. But also, big differences between live streaming to communities. Presenting to businesses and educating younger people. So I want to say that I see that on a slight continuum presenting to businesses could differ from educating younger people.

a business, I guess it makes [: 00:36:00

You Educating younger people in college. I know I have 15 weeks with them So some of the differences could be the time frames and the consistency like in my college group I have the same students for 15 weeks give or take right some absences here there But i've got this core group for this amount of time in a business.

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And so the live streaming enabled me to kind of deliver the content in a slightly different way, which I loved, because it went from very much audio to video. But the ability to have people comment in real time to be part of what I was doing and me to feel like I'm, you know, I'm kind of actually speaking to you and you're speaking to me kind of gave me.

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I think I did a lot of prerecorded videos. prior to getting involved with Ecamm and doing live streaming and things like that. And, um, it was something that I wasn't really used to or even considered, but having started doing more live streaming and building sort of an audience and getting a community together, it seems to be that that interaction, that those questions that come in when you're speaking to somebody and that sort of live interaction just, just helps the flow and just makes you feel more that what you're, Talking to people about and helping them with is, is making a difference and getting, getting that sort of positive feedback, um, from the community is, is something that I find really, really good.

o I enjoy the live streaming [: 00:39:00

So I had guests in my house, we had the cameras, and then we were live streaming so people were asking questions as I was cooking. So it actually built a cool community because, you know, off the grid. camera, want to know about the recipes or what are you doing? Or what's that tool you use? So that was an interesting thing.

I was also doing recorded videos too, which, um, it was just myself and the videographer. So I like that live interaction. I'm a theater kid. So I like that whole, you know, back and forth and just seeing the reactions and seeing people. You know, feel something. So live is great. You know, it's, you never know what's going to happen and you have to stay on your toes.

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So I was just gonna say, I know Neil's got a question coming up. But I think just at this particular moment, we know that Lisa's actually got an outdoor barbecue ready to go. And she's wanting to do one of these streams. She's just waiting for me to book the tickets to LA so that we can do a live show from her backyard.

And so If you want to say that, put a yes in the comments because we want to make this happen. So sorry, Neil. No, no problem. And there's a link to the GoFundMe page as well to get his first class business tickets over to Los Angeles to sample the delights of, uh, of Lisa's cooking. So that's, um, that's what we're definitely going to be doing.

think my partner would kill [: 00:41:00

I guess the idea, we're going to call it Tatiana Tastes. That's what we're it. Yes, that's good. There you go. I was thinking with all these traveling that I do, it should be Tatiana Travels. So now it's, there you go. Well, there's another channel. I mean, there's so many channels brand new brand going on, new branding.

There's so many branding going on here. We do branding consultancy as well at creative amplifier. So, you know, if you need some help, um, but anyway, we do have a little bit of a confession though, and this might be a little bit of an unpopular. Uh, opinion, because I know what's important, not to focus on numbers and not to look too deeply into things as you're building and growing.

ause I really didn't have a. [: 00:42:00

And so it felt very heavy and I did not have a lot of views and that was very discouraging to me to have live streams with, and I, and I will admit that I am terrible at marketing and promotion. This, this is one of the areas that I really need a lot of help in because I know it's important, right? Like you can have the most amazing content, but if nobody knows about it, No one's going to come.

So those are some of the things that I knew I needed to work on. And then I did niche down and then I decided, okay, my channel is going to be, and this was through another Ecamm friend, Claudio Sennhauser, who asked me two really important questions and got me to really focus in on who the audience is that I needed to be speaking to.

r and so now everything I do [: 00:43:00

And so I'm hoping that once that that that will help build a community and that I can restart live streaming because like the three of you said, live streaming is great. I do enjoy it, but I didn't enjoy it when. There when I was in streaming by myself, so I think I'm hoping that being able to rebuild and have this focus will draw the attention of other educators, specifically adjunct professor.

I mean, there are hundreds of thousands of them around the world, but I just wanted to mention in case anyone feels a little bit discouraged about that, too, that sometimes it is. You have to take you have to take a step back, figure out a new plan and then carry that out and be consistent with it. But.

me on as a regular guest and [: 00:44:00

So you always have to have these points in mind about what you're discussing, whether it's a specific topic and so on. And then you eventually, well, I used to just run out of steam. I'm done now. I don't know what else to talk about. There's nobody there on the other end. I'm talking to nobody, so let's close it up.

But the way I look at it is it's always content that you're creating. It's always practice. It's always going to be there on YouTube as a, as a recorded piece of material that you can then share later or cut up or do whatever you want. So it's never for nothing, I guess is what I'm saying. So with people who are just starting off and even the biggest YouTubers in the world start off with zero subscribers.

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Maybe you could talk a little bit about that for us. In my, so there's my, there's my world as an educator where I'll show you community, what it looks like in the classroom. And, you know, these are my students, not all of them, right. There have been way more than a thousand students at this point that come across, but it's, it's just such a privilege to me.

of them is building a sense [: 00:46:00

So that means that my students feel welcomed in my classroom, regardless of their grade. You know, regardless of what their skill level is, and that is huge to me in building a sense of community in the classroom, something that I hope to be able to share with other educators as well, specifically how I do that.

In terms of the online world, I have my e cam community, which is so solid, which is so strong. And then there are people who are not necessarily e cam users or in the e cam community who form a part of that. So every week I get together with a small group of people and we call it content creator accountability.

to really intimately share. [: 00:47:00

It's a small group and they help build each other up. They help inspire each other. So, You know, I have some, a lot of them are from the world of ECAM who are in that group and some are not so those friendships, those collegial relationships form a really strong part of the community, which is closer to helping me take action because we see each other every week, right?

So there's some, some really awesome people in, in my group. Sayeed is one of them who's in the chat. So, and. Within that, we have different, different connections, different relationships, right? They're the people who are gonna really hype you up when you, and I talked about this because I did a live stream with Ecamm on April the 11th.

eople too. Like, and this is [: 00:48:00

And then there are the, and then I have this like round table. Of mentors who are the people that I follow online who include people like Diana Gladney who include Ana and Folgens Right, I catch ENN every Monday whenever I possibly can and if not, I try to catch the replay But I'm like very faithful very loyal and when they had building blocks on Fridays, that was a great time for me, too So Ana and Folgens are up there for me and you can see all the different personalities and all the different styles I mean you guys know the difference between You A show with Anand Fulgens and a show with Doc, or a show with Katie, or a show with Marshall, a show with Strick, a show with Kirk, right?

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So we've had chances to chat afterwards. So these, the relationships continue and being in different programs, being just, you start to see people's names in the chat, like video, like a dad, right? Daryl met, we re recently met through comments in the chat and then we ended up just grabbing a coffee online and that's just the way it works.

Right? We, we end up connecting, connecting with people. So building, it's like community means different things and like being in different circles, right? And then now also having e camp for educators and building that group of people is really great too. So there's just, it's, it's such a beautiful and I feel like I have really rich relationships.

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So that's another part that I think is, is really special. Like getting, getting to connect, getting to connect with people is absolutely powerful. You know, when I smile, every time I see Marcus's name somewhere, he's just left that kind of a favorable impression on me, like wherever, wherever he is, whenever I see Roy, I'm always like, Hey, you know, tech troublemaker and just people who have meant a lot to me, who've really inspired me.

a chance to watch your video [: 00:51:00

We had music going and everybody just kind of gathered around, um, and, and the community accountability kind of fall in line with that too, because. To me, that's a combo of the two. But I was curious because I love any kind of, you know, program. That's going to help make your life a little bit easier. I know you did it for greeting papers.

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you can use a free tool like [: 00:53:00

Within the next 15 minutes, you'll be assigned a partner who's ready to co work on something. And then it's only like 7 a month if you want to have unlimited sessions. But you can just try three free a month if co working does it for you, right? And it does for me because, again, it's like I'm dedicating this time.

Then eventually you find friends in your group that you just schedule co working sessions. As well, right so by the way guys anybody's ever down to co work just let me know I love co working because it's just it's it's just you you start off the first minute and you say This is what I'm working on then Lisa you say what you're working on We set the timer and we work for that time and then we save the last couple of minutes to say how'd you do?

where did I go? But the the [: 00:54:00

I was like, man, how did the people who have those 24 hour channels do this?

Absolutely incredible. Well, thanks so much for sharing all these amazing Ideas the content the thought process. It's amazing. Are there any sort of final things you want to share right? Um and sort of uh, sort of start to sort of round this up for us I do. I do. Actually, I want to share these. I mean, we talked about characteristics, things that people have with, with all of the guests that have come on the show so far, but I did also want to share.

so. The first one is to turn [: 00:55:00

Be, uh, you have to be a student yourself. If you are going to teach others. Oh, actually, I guess that got cut off, huh? Let me, I'm gonna have to write, I'm gonna have to write a little smaller. Lemme do full screen give, give you a bit. Uh oh man. But I wanna see your reactions, guys. Let's see. Be a student.

There we go. Let's come back. I'll see if I, I'll, I'll, I'll try. I'll try to write smaller there. So the first one is to be a student and to take the posture of a learner. 'cause let me tell you something. When you take a class and you're the student, not the teacher, you suddenly are very much reminded about what it's like to do assignments.

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That's way too far away for most of us. It needs to be recent So I make sure that I take classes too and that I can remember what it's like to be in the learner's seat So That to me is step number one step number two is that and this I cannot teach you you have to care Right, so your heart has to be in the right place and a lot like roy said His why is to teach to be of service to give value a lot of us in this world making videos have that We want we truly care, right?

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So it's one thing to care and it's another thing to show. Oops. I have no idea how that happened, but let's see. Oh, I think it's because I'm drawing a line here. Hold on. Let me erase this. Okay. Number three is to show you care because students, communities. need to know that. I can genuinely care, but it's not coming across that way to other people.

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And when they say something to me important going on in their lives, I try to remember and ask about it another time because It feels good when people remember things about our lives. It feels good when people remember our names so I Spend the first three weeks like trying to memorize their names as much as I can I also have little tent cards to make sure and I have them take a name so that as i'm learning them Right, it makes the process easier and everybody instead of saying them or you can say josh dylan Vanessa, you know, you can actually say all of these names You Showing that we care changes and in the beginning of every semester, I asked my students a set of anonymous questions and one of the questions is what's one thing that a professor does that will help you be more successful this semester and almost always it's showing that they care.

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Right. Even, even, um, there's a, there's a creator illustrator who makes these cool things that I'm showing you here. Lucy is her name. She has a platform called CNVS that Saeed introduced me to, you know, just all of these little things that we can add to make our content look great and awesome. And you guys know what's, what's possible for us to do with, with any of these streaming tools that we use, you know, whether you're like us and use Ecam or you use.

Vmix or OBS or something else, it's just so fabulous to be able to, to spark up our content by making it memorable and enjoyable, memorable with all of the visual design stuff that we do, relevant, right? It has to be specific to the group. If I'm teaching a group of college students, I can't use examples of women in their late forties like me.

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Well, you you have to enjoy it too You have to be able to have fun so that they will enjoy it and It needs to be engaging. So it has to be interactive, your students, your community, those business leaders, they need to have skin in the game. Nobody likes just sitting on the sidelines, watching everybody else, which is why I think it's important to like, we're acknowledging people's comments in the chat when they come in.

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I completely agree. And I think all of those things that you've mentioned as well. You know, you've demonstrated and hit home so much in this sort of last hour or so that we've been chatting. And I think it's been so enjoyable as you sort of finished off with those things, certainly for me, and I've learned so much as well.

And I think understanding from an educator's point of view, how that is, but then understanding how I think all of our lives were affected by, say, let's say, community, The people within the e cam fam and all the different skill sets we have is, uh, it's just incredible. So Tatiana, thank you so much for being here.

I really appreciate your time and all the effort that you've put into making this evening, um, or evening for us, I should say over and over the UK, um, such, such a wonderful opportunity. Yeah. So thank you so much indeed. Fantastic guys. What a joy. What a pleasure. What an honor. And I appreciate the invitation and so glad to be lucky.